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September 5, 2019 at 10:44 am #3246Anonymous
Dear Friends,
I am performing abinitio structure prediciton of a 382 long protein sequence by following the tutorial:
In this tutorial, there is a “fragment picking” tutorial:: https://www.rosettacommons.org/demos/latest/public/fragment_picking/README
Could you please help me understand the below bullet points of the tutorial? I am unabvle to link these below points with what I am supposed to do. Uptil psipred I understand and have got .ss2 file. I have difficulty in uderstanding:
a) “put this vall in the flag”; where to get the vall from?
b) and, what does “flags” mean here? I think there is something missing in between in the tutorial.
c) how to get a vall file like mentioned here:
filtered.vall.dat.2006-05-05.gz?
After psipred finishes get the “download the machine learning scores results in plain text format” and give it a meaningful name, e.g.
2jsv.psipred.ss2
. This should have a header with the string “VFORMAT”
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Put this vall in the flags:
$ <path-to-Rosetta>/main/database/sampling/filtered.vall.dat.2006-05-05.gz
Update the flags with your correct database location
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Run the picker like this:
$> $ROSETTA3/bin/fragment_picker.linuxgccrelease @BestFragmentsProtocol/flags -in::file::vall $ROSETTA3_DB/sampling/small.vall.gz
IMPORTANT The small.vall.gz used here for fragment picking is only used to speed up the demo. You have to change this to the vall database on your system!
Output:
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frags.200.3mers
: for use with-in:file:frag3
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frags.200.9mers
: for use with-in:file:frag9
- fsc files for fragment information.
Thank you for your time!
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September 5, 2019 at 2:58 pm #14938Anonymous
Are you interested in ‘tweaking’ the fragment picker? or just running it?
because running make_fragments.pl will do everything for you. the tutorial is just a short part of what make_fragments.pl does, and is meant for a live demo session where people can run things quickly
please note that the bakerlab fragment picking server located at uses custom sate of the art settings/databases and is always evolving. That is why most developers choose to let the server do it for them.
comically though -> it appears to be down right now : (
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September 5, 2019 at 5:31 pm #14939Anonymous
I figured out what these bullet points mean, but as you mention, now the questions is:
What if I want to generate fragments from a “Vall” file generated from my specific set of PDBs? The vall file provided by rosetta package is very old “vall.jul19.2011.gz” under the folder “”fragment_tools/”. Is it ok to use that vall file for fragment generation?
Even though, if I want to do that and generate my vall file, running pdb2vall.py is a challenge at the moment for me, because I can’t run “make” in “pdb2vall/structure_profile_scripts/DEPTH-CLONE-2.8.7/” to generated “depth” executable to do so; it goves weird erros (have asked a separate question regarding that in this forum ““make” error in “pdb2vall/structure_profile_scripts/DEPTH-CLONE-2.8.7” “). Any idea how this can be solved?
And, to generate fragment files only, where can I do that? I know robetta serve (new.robetta.org) for full abinitio structure prediction but, is there any server just to make fragments?
Thanks!
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September 6, 2019 at 5:24 pm #14941Anonymous
robetta.bakerlab.org/fragmentsubmit.jsp
Yes that vall is the correct database (under fragment_tools) to use.
Although i do not have the data myself, i was told that newer iterations of the VAL database caused worse fragments to be generated, but no one could say why : /
As for pdb2vall — I’ve never used that before. I will look into it for you though.
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September 6, 2019 at 6:29 pm #14943Anonymous
i responded to your other thread as well but i think we package you already built binaries for DEPTH_CLONE so i think you can skip that step
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